Comments on: The webOS Advantage Part II – Pre vs. Android Flagships http://pre101.com/blog/2010/01/27/the-webos-advantage-part-ii-pre-vs-android-flagships/ Getting the most from your Palm Pre Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:33:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chris http://pre101.com/blog/2010/01/27/the-webos-advantage-part-ii-pre-vs-android-flagships/comment-page-1/#comment-327 Chris Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:52:41 +0000 http://pre101.com/blog/?p=866#comment-327 Lets be honest - one thing that Android and the iPhone do have is a lot of apps. If WebOS is to take off, they need a lot more devs working alongside them to get this to work out. Right now WebOS feels a bit lackluster in this field. So does Blackberry. They also need to bring something truly impressive onto the table for this to work as well. If not, Palm will continue to decline and eventually, the OS will die off. Pity if it does, because it is a good OS. Lets be honest – one thing that Android and the iPhone do have is a lot of apps. If WebOS is to take off, they need a lot more devs working alongside them to get this to work out. Right now WebOS feels a bit lackluster in this field. So does Blackberry.

They also need to bring something truly impressive onto the table for this to work as well.

If not, Palm will continue to decline and eventually, the OS will die off. Pity if it does, because it is a good OS.

]]> By: Nyle http://pre101.com/blog/2010/01/27/the-webos-advantage-part-ii-pre-vs-android-flagships/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Nyle Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:02:30 +0000 http://pre101.com/blog/?p=866#comment-322 Good article, thanks. I have a fond place in my heart for Palm. I started with their PDAs and then went to T600 then T680. I do want a WebOS phone but there are a few features that I want that the current devices don't have. Before I put major money down, they have to have. 1.) A memory expansion slot - MicroSD seems to make sense.) The excuse of elegance in design requiring the missing slot should hopefully not be an issue in Pre 2. I don't care if it's under the battery as long as I can expand the memory.) 2.) A Digital Camera of at least 5 megapixels (The stills should be as good as a cheap point and shoot digital) 3.) Record 720p video. (I don't expect the video to be as good as a dedicated camcorder but at least a good as a decent flip) I've been watching Android phones and they seem to be getting closer to matching my needs but I'd rather use WebOS. I've previously, spent up to $350 for my Smartphone with contract - so I don't think these features should be out of the question. A Smartphone needs to replace many of my other devices. It needs to be my - eBook reader MP3 player Portable video player Point and Shoot digital camera Flip video camera. Cell Phone Portable computer - for running other applications. If it does all that - I'm willing to sign up for a cell contract and pay a portion of what some of those devices would cost me. IMNSHO - Palm needs a high end WebOS phone. Right now they've got a low end and a mid range Smartphones. Yes, the designs are elegant and I love the OS but they need a high end model for users like me. Good article, thanks. I have a fond place in my heart for Palm. I started with their PDAs and then went to T600 then T680.

I do want a WebOS phone but there are a few features that I want that the current devices don’t have. Before I put major money down, they have to have.

1.) A memory expansion slot – MicroSD seems to make sense.) The excuse of elegance in design requiring the missing slot should hopefully not be an issue in Pre 2. I don’t care if it’s under the battery as long as I can expand the memory.)
2.) A Digital Camera of at least 5 megapixels (The stills should be as good as a cheap point and shoot digital)
3.) Record 720p video. (I don’t expect the video to be as good as a dedicated camcorder but at least a good as a decent flip)

I’ve been watching Android phones and they seem to be getting closer to matching my needs but I’d rather use WebOS. I’ve previously, spent up to $350 for my Smartphone with contract – so I don’t think these features should be out of the question. A Smartphone needs to replace many of my other devices.

It needs to be my -
eBook reader
MP3 player
Portable video player
Point and Shoot digital camera
Flip video camera.
Cell Phone
Portable computer – for running other applications.

If it does all that – I’m willing to sign up for a cell contract and pay a portion of what some of those devices would cost me.

IMNSHO – Palm needs a high end WebOS phone. Right now they’ve got a low end and a mid range Smartphones. Yes, the designs are elegant and I love the OS but they need a high end model for users like me.

]]> By: Ken http://pre101.com/blog/2010/01/27/the-webos-advantage-part-ii-pre-vs-android-flagships/comment-page-1/#comment-320 Ken Thu, 18 Feb 2010 07:08:26 +0000 http://pre101.com/blog/?p=866#comment-320 webOS will dominate. Give it time. We're in month 8 now. Other OS's 1½ to almost 3 years. When Palm gets through baking watch what happens. webOS will dominate. Give it time. We’re in month 8 now. Other OS’s 1½ to almost 3 years. When Palm gets through baking watch what happens.

]]> By: webOSroundup http://pre101.com/blog/2010/01/27/the-webos-advantage-part-ii-pre-vs-android-flagships/comment-page-1/#comment-278 webOSroundup Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:56:22 +0000 http://pre101.com/blog/?p=866#comment-278 Stillwell, you are making my point. The purpose of these articles is to raise awareness of webOS as a platform and the phones that use it. There is no question that Android and iPhone sell better than Palm's devices. I believe some of that can be attributed to a lack of knowledge. There are major ad campaigns for Android devices and the iPhone...both of which show how amazing they are (its their ads after all). I just think that if given equal airtime, the webOS devices would show to be superior. So, this is my little effort to give webOS its deserved spotlight. David Stillwell, you are making my point. The purpose of these articles is to raise awareness of webOS as a platform and the phones that use it.

There is no question that Android and iPhone sell better than Palm’s devices. I believe some of that can be attributed to a lack of knowledge. There are major ad campaigns for Android devices and the iPhone…both of which show how amazing they are (its their ads after all).

I just think that if given equal airtime, the webOS devices would show to be superior. So, this is my little effort to give webOS its deserved spotlight.

David

]]> By: Stilwell http://pre101.com/blog/2010/01/27/the-webos-advantage-part-ii-pre-vs-android-flagships/comment-page-1/#comment-277 Stilwell Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:38:58 +0000 http://pre101.com/blog/?p=866#comment-277 The whole point is moot. In a nerds perspective some of you points kind of make sense. To a normal consumer who doesn't think about phones all day your points have no point. 95% of the already more than 1 million Droid owners are still happy with their Droid. Nexus has better specs but not in a way that makes a big difference. The Droid can still handle all the apps the nexus can. The Pixi can't run flash or 3D games. Sprint pre users can only open 5-10 apps before getting an error. Pre plus users can open 50. Same thing with iPhone 3g and 3Gs. Normal 3G owners don't care. Most pre users don't care. And most Droid owners don't care. Motorola said the Droid is getting 2.1 so version numbers don't matter between the two devices. I am sorry to say but this post just sounds like an angry rant. Probably because both the nexus and Droid are outselling the pre. Units sold Android G1: 1.9 million MyTouch: 2.4 million HTC Hero: 650,000 Droid: 1.3 million Droid Eris: 521,000 Nexus One: 48,000 Samsung Moment: 310,000 Samsung Behold 2: 112,000 Motorola Cliq: 673,000 WebOS Palm pre: 1.2 million Palm Pixi: 390,000 So which platform is having a hard time making it easier fir consumers? The whole point is moot. In a nerds perspective some of you points kind of make sense. To a normal consumer who doesn’t think about phones all day your points have no point. 95% of the already more than 1 million Droid owners are still happy with their Droid. Nexus has better specs but not in a way that makes a big difference. The Droid can still handle all the apps the nexus can. The Pixi can’t run flash or 3D games. Sprint pre users can only open 5-10 apps before getting an error. Pre plus users can open 50. Same thing with iPhone 3g and 3Gs. Normal 3G owners don’t care. Most pre users don’t care. And most Droid owners don’t care. Motorola said the Droid is getting 2.1 so version numbers don’t matter between the two devices. I am sorry to say but this post just sounds like an angry rant. Probably because both the nexus and Droid are outselling the pre.

Units sold

Android

G1: 1.9 million
MyTouch: 2.4 million
HTC Hero: 650,000
Droid: 1.3 million
Droid Eris: 521,000
Nexus One: 48,000
Samsung Moment: 310,000
Samsung Behold 2: 112,000
Motorola Cliq: 673,000

WebOS

Palm pre: 1.2 million
Palm Pixi: 390,000

So which platform is having a hard time making it easier fir consumers?

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